Kathryn Lofton recently sat down with Kristian Peterson of the website New Books in Religion, to discuss her recent title, Oprah: The Gospel of an Icon. The two discuss freq.uenci.es, The Immanent Frame, and the book’s argument that Oprah is a lens through which to see that modern religion is “not something distinct that we can analyze but should be conceived of as the interaction of various modalities, which are often bracketed off as ‘Spirituality,’ ‘Commodity,’ and ‘Corporatism.'”

Listen to the full interview at New Books in Religion.